[Well, that seems fair enough to Ren, given how Sandalphon can sometimes be. It took those weird honesty springs to get them particularly talking about anything to do with Sandalphon's home.]

That's true. I was saying to him once that it's hard to think someone is properly passionate about something if they're not continually improving themselves at it, so it's nice to see him work at that.

[It's not so much the territory Ren is used to seeing that kind of dedication in, but that's just a result of him not paying quite so much attention to that industry back home. Other than being a coffee snob himself.]