[ Alibaba looks sheepish and shrugs. ]

There might be other ways to find out? But it's how I figured it out the first time.

There are... um there's these device things. Lots of people talk on them. Although you might want to ask someone else to show you how? I'm still trying to figure most of it out myself. But I've got a friend who seems to know all about them, if you need help?

[ Thanks, Billy. ]